BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese Review(s)

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eviefree BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.6

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Stan Yoshino BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.2

Story
Story is very unique and fully voiced; MC is not the main focus of most of the stories unlike most idol games. In fact, other than to Kei and Heath, the MC has very little importance to the other characters (MC is related to something big in terms of the plot but we don't know what it is yet). I like the fact that the game focuses more on developing the characters rather than having it about everyone trying to get the MC to fall in love with them. There is A LOT of drama that goes on between the characters and there are a lot of mysteries involved that have yet to be known. For other idol games like IChu, Bpro, and Tsukipara, I couldn't be bothered to read the story but Blackstar is really dramatic (and its funny when the cast members have cat fights lmao). It starts out after the original owners of Theater Starless (among several other people) mysteriously disappear and then the theater gets robbed by some people who broke in. Like, WHAT??? What a while way to start. I can't help myself getting so excited over reading the next episode, it's honestly a first for me. Just as a warning, the story is very very shady and dark and in some instances lowkey depressing so it's not for people who like happier things like most idol games are like. For me, that's kind of why I like it so much because it's more realistic (minus the wacky situation and the fact that there may be some kind of crime group related to it...?). I like the fact that it's so tense and everyone is so anxious all the time because it makes me wonder what's going to happen next and there are A LOT of things that happen that is totally unexpected. But I'm aware it's not everyone's cup of tea, so if you like happy stories you might not like Blackstar's story.


Songs
The songs are alright. Very much on the rock side. If that's your thing you're gonna love the songs. Personally, I like the usual "idol songs" that are more upbeat so I really like Team P's songs, but the others are mostly rock which I don't prefer as much. They aren't bad at all, it's just I don't find at least 1/3 of the songs stick out to me :/. Of course the main song (theme song?) BLACKSTAR was really good. After Hatsukoi, it's my favorite. Something I find interesting is that the songs are not sung by the voice actors, but by professional singers (such as Ide Takuya, Fujita Rei, Kobayashi Taro) and Utaite (such as kradness, Stungun, Shakemi, ajikko). The only thing I wish though, would be that they chose singers for some of the characters that actually resembled the character's voice. For example, Rindou has a low voice but his singer, ajikko, has a high voice which is not bad but I also kind of want to hear what it would sound like if Rindou was singing it since people don't normally have such a wide gap between their talking voice and singing voice^^;


Gameplay
There are two types of gameplays in the game. One is the "Rehersal" (I may have gotten the name wrong as I don't have the game open with me at the time of writing this) mode which is a lot like how in Enstars or A3! you don't really do anything and just tap tap tap to get stuff; except unlike those games I just mentioned, the animation in it is not as fancy (since it isn't really the main part of the game I guess). The benefits of doing the lesson is that during the performance you will get a boost (higher score) if the levels of the characters in your team are high in the lesson. It will also improve your accuracy during the Cheer mode of the performance (people suggest around level 15 for every member in order to get a good score). If your levels are high, you may even get a higher score in Cheer mode than playing manually. Some events also have relationship stories between 2 members whose relationship bar can be increased in the rehearsal mode during the event. While those stories are not important to the main story, they're important in learning more about the characters involved and, of course, their relationships with the other cast members (you also get dias from reading the story). Finally, in the recent events, some of the main story unlocking requirements have been to play the event song with members whose levels are above a certain amount (those ones are a killer;;).

The second type of gameplay is the "Performance" mode which is the rhythm game. Within performance mode there is a "Rhythm mode" and a "Cheer mode" which is autoplay of the rhythm mode. The notes are vertical, which may be difficult for some people but in general the music gameplay is rather simple (of course there are multiple difficulties and you can change the speed so that can make it more difficult for you if that's your thing). I like how in some songs, the notes make the shape of something significant in the song at the moment. For example, in the song Daken, as the singer says "Team K", the long notes come together in the shape of a K; in Hatsukoi, there are heart shaped long notes; and in During the Demise, as the line 救国の剣 (The Sword of Salvation) is sung, the long not is in the shape of a sword. There is no fancy background with characters dancing (in all honesty I don't even know what the SD character designs in the cards are for because you only get to see them at the beginning and end of the song;;) unlike other idol rhythm games which is a shame. For beginners, I find that getting high scores (and therefore more points in events) is really hard (getting points in events is pretty hard without event cards in general) and it also doesn't help that the gatcha rates for 5stars is really low (and in event gatchas, a 10play guarantees at least one 4star but not necessarily the event 4star if there is one). However, you can get decent scores with an all 4star team if their stats are maxed out (I suggest to increase the "chance" levels so you get more items to level up cards during a performance). Apparently using paid dias doesn't increase the rates in the gatcha either ;-; (not a good way to encourage people to pay Donuts...). Getting the event 5stars are not too difficult (except in seasonal events they require 3 times as many points) and at the end of a season (so far only season 1 is finished), there is a big event which brings back all the main story events so you can finish unlocking stories you didn't unlock during the original event. In those events there are point rewards that can be exchanged for event reward cards and are really easy to obtain (I managed to get all 5 copies of the Kokuyou/Akira , Yoshino, and Sinju/Menou cards; 4 blank cards (for versus type events) of the Kokuyou/Mokuren card; and a copy of the Rindou/Menou card. I could have probably gotten more but I got lazy near the end of the event lol). Unfortunately there currently are no ways to obtain copies of seasonal event cards after the event is finished (hopefully they'll bring them all back in an anniversary event!)


Visuals
The art is REALLY pretty. I found out about this game after Tsukipara announced they would be stopping services (and later on Bpro as well ;-;) and the art was originally what attracted me to the game. The cast members are so pretty, and there are multi-dimensions in the shading (i.e. it's not just a base colour and then a shadow layer on top). I'm a big fan of Kokuyou, Yoshino, Kasumi, and Yakou. There is also a character who's gender is cannonly "unknown" (性別不明 is what is said. There are probably many English labels you can give to this character based on it such as non-binary but literally it says "gender unknown" and does not directly translate as non-binary so I will not say) (Mokuren) and one who is (heavily hinted to be) bi with a preference for men (Qu), which I find is unique, because LGBTQ+ is not a widely spoken topic in Japan and genuine media (not BL/GL(yuri) which tends to be unrealistic) related to that topic. The cast member's stage costumes tend show a lot of skin (with the exception of Mokuren who always has their body covered) lmao (Kei has a shirtless 5star sdfsd).

Overall, I personally LOVE this game despite even though there are many things that could be improved. Through the stories the characters become likeable, then dislikeable, then likeable again, and it's honestly an emotional rollercoaster. For me, it was the art that attracted me to the game but it was the story that kept me hooked. I find that the story is the most interesting part of the game so if you don't understand Japanese and can't be bothered to translate (or look for people who have translated it) the game may seem mediocre to you (although a lot of good male idol rhythm games have been stopping services recently). The stories give you a lot of exciting (?) information (that people love to make memes out of especially in the JP fandom). I play the game for the stories

Tldr: The story and visuals are the best part of the game, the game play is rather simple (but still entertaining), songs are good if you like rock, not very generous to beginners

Sorry this ended up being very long^^;
Raccoon Ch Top Contributor BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

📌Black Star -Theater Starless เกมแนว แตะตามเสียงเพลง ปกติแล้วเราจะเจอเกมแบบนี้ในรูปแบบเครื่องดนตรี ตัวละครสาวๆ แล้วเก็แตะตามจังหวะ แต่นี่เป็นตัวละครชายหนุ่มทั้งหมดเอาใจสาวๆ
อีกทั้งมีการอัพตัวละครด้วย
คนไทยมาใหม่มารวมกันรีวิวนี้ เพื่อนๆคนไหนติดปัญหาตรงไหน เม้นช่วยเหลือกันได้เต็มที่ครับ 😘
เพื่อนๆคนไหนถูกใจรีวิวของ
Raccoon Ch สามารถกดติดตาม และกด like เป็นกำลังใจให้ด้วยนะครับ😆
xeru BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.2

yoshino my precious boy must protect
July703 BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.4

игра отвал жопы, ждала ее 12 лет в азкабане
геймплей конечно немного странный, но привыкнуть можно
Sherrice jackson Game Hunter BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

3.6

App size is 300mb. It takes about 10 minutes to reroll.

This is basically another rhythm game. Not doing anything new or innovative.

The art is good and there are great voice actors though which is the real reason I'm deciding to play this game.

Gacha rate is 3% for a 5* and you get enough to do a 10roll and a couple singles.

If you're one of those people that like hot guys and rhythm games you'll enjoy this.
deerychan BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.0

шин может наступить на меня а мокурен прострелить мне колено и я поблагодарю их
Sharmane Rosewood BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

Очень приятная ритм-игра. Вертикальный геймплей, запоминающиеся песни, симпатичные мальчики, которые не похожи друг на друга и не выглядят слишком смазливо, тоже легко запоминаются.
Интуитивно все понятно, сюжет на японском (за его прохождение дают кристаллики) что немного проблемно, но можно воспользоваться переводчиком или скипать истории.
Есть система рейтинга среди друзей, проходишь песню - уже есть очки. Ранг выбивается не трудно, уже A-rank.
Сама атмосфера и фоновая музыка завораживают, так и хочется остаться подольше[害羞]
Акира, Кей и Кокую - любимчики (っ´ω`c)
RiiBee BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

Ada yang mau ikut gc roleplay bs di wa ga?
masih butuh orang ini :')
yg mau tolong ke wattpadku Riibee_Kara
chat aja ya~
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Feower44 BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.4

Plus Point:
+ The MC isn't the only focus while at the same time is the important key part on the story, so the characters aren't all about cheesy romancing with MC all the time.

+ Each of their own have their conflict and motive related to this show-restaurant where at the first glance is just a 'normal' restaurant. The rivalry is there, not just with other team but even with their own teammate too, and i can tell you their rivalry isn't just where they hate each other or some crap like that, but it is for the actual survival's sake/motive sake for some of the character.
They all have their own interesting interactions with each characters and not everyone here is a buddy-buddy, so they're not like 'friendship power' stereotype.

+ Their character development is amazing, i must say. because it's flowing slowly but surely, you can see it within each chapter yet they don't rush it. good example for show not tell.

+ The song. Maybe you assume this is just some rhyme game with rap and rock because of their appearances, but it's not only that. They have many other genres and a lot of them is catchy. If you like edgy music, this is for you. If you like retro, jazz or even idol kinda song(idk what their genre is), this is for you too.
While it's not their VA who sang the song but the actual singer, it actually fits the character perfectly. If you want to check it out they do have youtube channel, just search Blackstar Theater Starless.

+ You don't have to worry about the diamond, because it's easy to get them except if you're a big spender. They have their weekly quest where you just have to play mission on the song. the reward is sometimes diamond, and materials to level up the card. even if you didn't play the quest, just playing the current event song will give you generous amount of materials for leveling up, so it's not that grindy (except for the Card reward event, even then with the right card it's not really hard to obtain, but you definitely will need patience). and not really hard to level up at all (unlikesomegamescoughnotgonnasaywhich)

+ The mystery and their story is actually chilling, and if you are already deep in the chapter, it makes you wonder if you're playing a rhyme game or a horror game. What is wrong with these restaurant, where did the boss go and why some of their staff missing, what is exactly Blackcard and why they are hunting us, and what is our relations to some of the member here, it is an engaging mystery.

Minus Point:
- Not gonna lie, the UI is kinda bland and the home menu page is hurting my eyes because of the bright colors.

- The card selection is kinda laggy, so it's annoying to scroll through them (even though you can use filter, it is still pain in the neck)

- The beatmap notes is changing colors depending with the color of characters card you choose, which is creative but sometimes makes it hard for you to see the notes.

- Maybe for some people the pace of the event is exhausting since if some event or chapter is over, they gonna start with new event/chapter again soon. While i think it's good because the audience won't get bored for waiting, but it's draining at the same time. The pace for each chapter is two weeks (sometimes longer), and seasonal event is one week (sometimes longer too). If you're only here for the story, you can still unlock them with pink ticket (you get them from drop or quest), but you can't get the event reward card anymore.

Sorry for the long review, but this is my actual honest opinion towards the game. And i want people who see this to check them out because it is such a waste a game like this is still not popular.
sunsunny BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

3.8

When you mix Dynamic Cord, Marginal#4, and Hypmic... You get this masterpiece. Heroine roams downtown carrying a mysterious invitation where she finds herself getting dragged to an entertainment-bar called Starless and meets a bunch of bishounens called "Warmens" who are rockstar idols competing to become top singers. As a special customer(marked as black card), Heroine gets a special "backstage pass" that leads her to discovering more dark secrets and solving mysteries(and ofcourse being a supportive #1 fan to her chosen team along the way). Gameplay is like any other Rhythm games with meh Gacha pulls. There's already an event once u open the game. The Rehearsal system is where you train your boos to lvl up and compete with live rankings . Overall it's quite good, Pretty hard. If you're a fan of catchy-edgy idol music this is perfect for you.
OnOrOffBR BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.6

Tinha esquecido de avaliar e deixar minha resenha.

Enfim, o jogo é muito BOM, a história é BOA, os personagens são (deliciosos) LINDOS,
as músicas são ÓTIMAS, os eventos MARAVILHOSOS

Ou seja minha gente, o jogo é bom oras, um jogo de ritmo que vale muito a pena jogar!

Eu desde o começo amei demais o jogo, e ele foi uns dos primeiros que eu joguei de ritmo, porém antes eu era muito burrinho e não sabia que tinha daily, eventos, e melhorar cartas, eu jogava pq amava as músicas, e os personagens em si.
ユーリア BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.0

Неплохая игра. Графика в целом замечательная. Стилистика персонажей и общая цветовая гамма прям класс. Геймплей простой и удобный. Все кнопки находятся интуитивно. Вот только непонятно зачем было так мудрить с системой рейтингов, которые обновляются постоянно. Скорее всего игроки, которые не будут донатить будут или с кровью и потом получать хоть что-то, или никак.

Насчет сложности песен. Вертикальный геймплей не так уж часто встречается, но привыкнуть легко и просто. Есть действительно сложные песни (от 26 уровня и выше) а так - все хорошо.

Насчёт доната - как и во всех японских играх.


UPD.
Первый ивент проходит максимально жестоко и больно, потому что доступна только одна песня, с которой можно получить поинты.

UPD.1.1:
КАКОЙ ДЕБИЛ ПРИДУМАЛ, ЧТО КАРТЫ 3* МОГУТ БЫТЬ ТАКИМИ ЖЕ СТАТАМИ, КАК И 5*????
ДЕБИЛЫ РЕАЛЬНО
Lev BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

First of all wow.. I wasn't expecting *that* much when I downloaded it but I'm hooked!

The songs are REALLY good and addicting, the characters are all super hot (and smexy--) so if you can put your attention to one only.. congrats! you've done the impossible--

I like how the notes changes color and shape! it's so pretty~ And it being horizontally is a nice change of pace~

I'm sad that I didn't play this way earlier or knew abt it when it released.. It's so good that I think I might get addicted lmao (like enstars-- help.)

I'm still not 100% what some parts or stuff do so I'm excited to find out! ☆
(especially the part where we train(?) them ahaha- what does that do?-)

I still don't have a no. 1 fav character (since I've been playing for like an hour-) but the ones who caught my attention are; Maica, Qu, Kasumi, Sinju, Mokuren, Rindou, Health, Ran, Yoshino and Ginsel!

I can't wait (to be stuck in this hell hole forever--) to get to know the boys and more about the game~ [開心]💜
(by images, voice and face expressions since idk jap hahaha- [鬼臉])

(help- the sone Violet is permanently stuck in my head--)


EDIT: I also forgot to mention but... If you're one of those people who has a bad relationship with flick notes.. guess what... THIS GAME DOESN'T HAVE ANY! Yes, you heard me! (so no more excuses when you fail to pc a song ahah-)


.. why does Rindou look like L from Marginal#4? 😂
松岡百瀬 BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.8

Empecé a jugar BSTS en su aniversario del año pasado porque hacia un tiempo ya que me llamaba la atención, pero como ya jugaba (aún juego) varios juegos rítmicos nunca lo empecé, pero en esas fechas me dió por probarlo, lo cuál no me arrepiento.
Aún me cuesta pillarle a la historia, pero gracias a San Google Translate entiendo a lo que va sjjd la jugabilidad me ha gustado bastante, es muy entretenido a mi parecer.

Las canciones que hay de momento me gustan mucho, las estaría escuchando 24/7. El diseño de personajes ni hablar, todos los chicos son muy lindos, cada uno con lo suyo. Me hubiera gustado que tuvieran más líneas de voz aparte de las de historia (como por ejemplo: en los episodios del nivel de luv porque aaah hay que darle más emoción (? jajs)

Me gustaría que le dieran un poco más de amor y se haga mucho más conocido porque lo encuentro un juego muy bueno. Espero que más personas de habla hispana lo juegue porque es difícil encontrar gente y así fangirlear al mismo tiempo ah xd si saben de algún Discord o grupo sería genial que me dijeran porque me gusta demasiado este juego y aún tengo algunas dudas jsjs.

Aguante Team W.
Amo demasiado a Kokuyou –inhala– A ❤
Saludos desde Chile.
doublebdabs BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.6

It's so funny to read these comments here.

I've been playing otomes for years & years, and this got me good. Honestly, beat me if I am wrong, but for me the story of the game is original. I am saying about the whole content, where they were idols making shows on a bar and even on a theater then it all go to hell when the owners disappear. For me, the story is new. I've seen a lot of idols thing, but their second work... Haha.

Also, you don't see a company trying to do something new. How many games are out there of sengoku? Of mafia, time, and even some animal thing... so why treat it like it's their obligation to do something out of our mind, lol.

There are some problems, but it's okay.... I think. Not perfect.

All otomes are like that. Hot boys and big problems.
qwamk BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

4.8

я удалила бравл старс ради этого надеюсь мне понравится
апд мне понравилось
апд2 я купила плакат формата А1 мне точно поноавилось
Takamiya Niel BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

keren! meski gue msh gk kebiasa ya ama model rhytymnya, tpi, tetep good lah. yg indo bkn grup wa atau apa kek, supaya buat yg gk ngrti maen ke gue bisa nanya" soal game ini.
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Lyubi BLACK STAR: Theater Starless | Japanese

5.0

給各位可能想入坑,正在參考意見欄的USER們:

之前因為感想寫得太隨便,剛好現在又有時間想說來補齊一下
讓身為Starless常客的我來向大家介紹?解說?一下這個遊戲(玩法跟攻略應該其他人都有寫過了,就不多說)

以下就是身為常客ミズキ推的我跟大家主觀的建議(預防針?)

■具備基礎日文能力
畢竟這遊戲沒有日文以外的語言,如果只是漢字看得懂的程度雖然也是可以玩,但這個遊戲劇情滿吃重比例的,可能各位要自己斟酌。

■不要僅用音游的角度看待這個遊戲
這個遊戲本身就是主打「應援&節奏」的遊戲類別,不要因為看到"節奏"就將既定的節奏遊戲框架放在這裡。
這個遊戲是必須是【應援】&【節奏】雙重技能都擁有的人才能高分地方。

■不要用乙女遊戲的角度看待這個遊戲
遊戲製作人安藤(H氏の友人)說過,這個遊戲原本的製作就是不想綁定for女性(雖然的確女性玩家比較多)
所以是抱著乙女GAME心態進來的人一定會大失望。

■不是偶像/明星系列遊戲
我看到有人說角色們都偶像/明星?
容許我說聲:Definitely NOT!!!(根本不是!!!)

根據安藤的說法,這個地方是把所有東西都塗黑的地方!所以這個遊戲的標語「黒く、塗りつぶせ(全部塗黑)」

就是請務必把那些偶像阿明星那種閃亮亮&純白想法放在一邊
在這裡的只有活在暗面、為了自己慾望而存在的孩子們。(跟大叔XD?)

■直向螢幕
直向螢幕真心讚
上班路上、上班/上課中偷都玩都很方便

■可能對無課相對不友善
本人是微課玩家,所以可能無法詳述無課的心情XD
但是基本上沒有什麼人權卡,所以首刷就是刷到喜歡的角色出來為止就很OK了(from開服時花了三天刷ミズキ的我[白眼])

會說相對對無課不友善是因為上面也說到了,這遊戲除了節奏這個主線以外,還要【應援】
這時候就要拿出在遊戲上市前打廣告用的標語來解釋了:

推しの全ては貴女のモノ(推的全部都是妳的)
推しを救うのは貴女の財力?愛?(拯救推的是妳的財力?還是愛?)

給入坑前的你們再思考三秒的機會(姨母笑[微笑]

■主線劇情全語音
建議先去YOUTUBE上聽完SEASON 0的廣播劇再開始看會比較順暢。
除了最近因為疫情會延遲上架語音以外其實故事都已經排程好了,穩定更新章節故事不延遲。
(不像某些遊戲一直開活動都不更新主線[微笑])

■活動期間要有每天至少浪費20分鐘的決心
這遊戲的節奏關卡是不能SKIP的,就算AUTO你也必須自己放技能
會說至少需要可以浪費20分鐘是因為
遊戲因應每首歌,角色們必須去另外練習"熟練度"你的AUTO才會打的棒棒搭。

這個"熟練度"的加速練法就是:花石頭→買戒指(20分鐘內經驗up)→喝能量飲料→不停練習

嗯,加油[憋屈]

■有時效性(Real TIME)
這個遊戲的另一個特點就是有時效性。
看人物介紹的部分就知道,他連角色出生年份都寫出來了
就代表:人物會跟著妳一起長大!
比如說:ミズキ的20歲生日就只會有一次,不會每年都20歲!!!

有些東西錯過就不再了......還不課嗎???的意思😏

■人物刻劃細膩
有些遊戲的角色設定到後面會感覺怎麼每個人物的個性/或是有幾個人的講話口吻都突然變一樣了?!的出戲感
但這個遊戲的角色雖然人數多,目前還沒重複角色感的產生

目前想到的大概就是這樣,歡迎大家批評指教,感謝ヽ(^o^)丿

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與其說他是音樂遊戲,不如說他是育成遊戲比較適切。
活動方面育成真的很重要。

這是一款我會玩到買周邊跟fanbook的遊戲[開心]

雖然玩了快一年主線還是一堆謎團_(√ ζ ε:)_
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